Secret Shopper
For the Secret Shopper assignment, I asked the new librarian at my CPL branch for a Fantasy recommendation. The book I chose at the beginning of this class is a Patrick Rothfuss title that is 600+ pages long, and while I’m eager to read it eventually, I also wouldn’t mind a shorter option. I told Justin that I was looking for a fantasy novel for a class. I told him it had to be a book for adults and that I have very little experience with the genre. I read the Harry Potter series, but had trouble getting into Lord of the Rings and Game of Thrones. I told him about the Rothfuss book and how I would prefer something shorter. His first question was, “what do you like to read?” He asked what I meant by “fantasy—do you mean dragons and wizards?” I replied that I was open to high fantasy but I wanted the book to be purely fantasy if possible, and not a blend of multiple genres. Thinking about the interaction from Justin’s point of view, it has to be difficult to “respond to the shifting nature of genre itself,” (Wyatt, N., and Saricks, J. G., 2019, p. xvi). No wonder he was trying to triangulate by asking more about what I meant by fantasy.
Justin’s first course of action was to search the Chicago Public Library’s website. He ended up on a list of fantasy books curated by the library. They were all the heavy hitters that I either already read, wasn’t interested in (Lord of the Rings), or were YA/children’s books. “Fantasy has long been a crossover genre, especially with adults reading YA and plenty of middle graders and older teens reading adult titles” (Wyatt, N., and Saricks, J. G., 2019, p. 146). Undeterred, Justin opened up a web browser and typed in “classic fantasy books” or something close to that. The first result was a list by by Penguin Random House, but he was unhappy with the books listed because it was “clear they are just trying to sell their own books.” Ha!
Next, he went to Goodreads. He came across a list of fantasy books that included an Ursula K. LeGuin book called Earthsea. He said “well, this is sometimes considered a children’s or YA book, but it was technically written before YA was considered a genre. Let me check if we have a copy in this branch.” Then he quickly pulled up the CPL website again and quickly found a call number. “Just in case it won’t count because it could be considered a book for children, here’s another idea.” He wrote down Earthsea as well as Mists of Avalon, saying “it doesn’t get more classic fantasy than King Arthur!” I wanted to talk with him more, but after I found the copy of Earthsea I came back to the desk and some little girls had practically dragged him into the children’s area to show off their LEGO creations.
Overall, it was not what I was expecting! I was surprised he used CPL’s website first, though I don’t know why. I was also surprised how hard it was to articulate what I was looking for. It was hard for me to choose a book from a genre I wasn’t familiar with, even presented with lists of options. I was relieved when it seemed like Justin sensed this and kept searching. I’ll admit I was a little disappointed he chose a book for children and an old book—I kind of wanted something new and exciting. However, I didn’t tell him that, so there’s no way he could have known. Justin didn’t ask any questions that tried to uncover my personal “appeal factors” (Vnuk, 2013, para. 1). I also think he could have spent a little longer describing what books were about. I felt like I was choosing on title alone, which might be why I wasn’t initially excited about Mists of Avalon. Once I got home and did a little more research, I learned it is told from women’s perspectives, which made it more appealing to me.
This assignment led me to empathize with the patron in a way I didn’t anticipate. First of all, it takes a little bit of courage to ask a stranger to recommend you a book. There might be feelings of inadequacy or intimidation when you ask someone what they usually read. Not everyone is good at communicating what they liked or disliked about certain books, especially on the fly or several years after they first read them. I took a lot of comfort from Justin’s tone and demeanor, and it’s what I remember most when I look back on the interaction. When I left the library I felt like I had a good starting point, and the interaction was pleasant enough that I’d definitely ask Justin for help again in the future.
Resources
Wyatt, N., and Saricks, J. G. (2019). The Reader’s Advisory Guide to Genre Fiction. (3rd ed.). Chicago: ALA.
Vnuk, Rebecca. (2013). Jack of All Trades Readers’ Advisory: How to Learn a Little About a Lot. Public Libraries Online. Retrieved from http://publiclibrariesonline.org/2013/05/jack-of-all-trades-readers-advisory-how-to-learn-a-little-about-a-lot/
Hi Shannon! I enjoyed reading about your secret shopper experience! I really like how you pointed out the difficulty that some patrons might have about approaching a staff member for help. Until I actually did this assignment, I didn't think it would be that hard, but it was actually intimidating. I can't imagine how hard it would be for someone who has less library experience to take that first step.
ReplyDeleteI also had some difficulties finding a book because my librarian did not ask questions about my "appeals" at first. I didn't realize how important the questions asked really are. We have to dive more into what the patrons are wanting outside of simply asking broad genre questions.
Questions also make you seem interested, rather than just fulfilling an obligation. I'll definitely remember this for the future!
DeleteYou had a pretty good experience compared to some of the others, but I can still see how that would be disappointing. I was also looking for something "new to me" in fantasy and didn't really get what I wanted. At least he was doing some searches to try to find something for you. It is also sometimes hard to explain exactly what you want, because all fantasy is different and if you want something along the lines of Dragonriders of Pern, the best result is that series!.
ReplyDeleteIt's almost like an advisory recency bias--I do think most people want to read the "latest" books, for the most part, unless they specify otherwise! Hope you found something good eventually.
DeleteI also had a librarian who was searching the catalog first (Indianapolis Public Library branch) and this was also surprising to me. I tried to replicate a search on their website after I got home to try to see how she ended up at the recommendations she gave me, but I think the staff either has a different interface to interact with the catalog or she just was much more savvy with the search terms.
ReplyDeleteI also related to your comment in the last comment about being nervous to approach the desk as a patron. I'm not necessarily reserved usually, but I am a TERRIBLE liar and so conducting this research under somewhat false pretenses made me incredibly nervous and I wandered the stacks for 10 minutes prepping myself to ask the question. It reminded me about discussions in LIS501 about the benefits of roaming the stacks to reach patrons who might want help but be afraid to ask for it.
Excellent point about how crucial it is to approach patrons in the stacks (when they look like they need it).
DeleteTotally with you on the bad liar thing! I didn't think to try to replicate his search when I got home, but I bet you're right.
DeleteYou made a great point about empathizing more with patrons after completing this assignment. Before talking with the librarian that I encountered for this assignment, I was surprised by how nervous I felt. I definitely had a moment of "what if they think what I am looking for is dumb or they are annoyed that I am there". Which is silly, they were very nice. Also, when I am the one doing the reference interview I have never felt that way about a patron and I imagine most librarians would not, as it is a part of the job they signed up for haha. Thanks for sharing!
ReplyDeleteNo one wants to look dumb! I think just one semi-successful experience has cured me of my nerves for the future. Hopefully it'll do the same for patrons.
DeleteHello, Shannon!
ReplyDeleteI definitely sympathize here. I mentioned in my own post that I felt a bit silly approaching the reference desk for something like book recommendations when I could have easily just started browsing the racks or even Googled it myself. There are tons of read-alike list for the tech-savvy person! It actually takes a fair bit of courage, in more circumstances than one, to admit you need help sometimes, even for something as simple as this may seem. Empathy is important in our positions and the librarian was unaware of my assignment or even what my capabilities were of searching for myself, but he didn't ask and was very patient throughout the entire experience. How very kind!
Great post!
Sara
Asking for help--no matter for what--is hard! Good to remember this, and nothing like an in-person experience to put it in context.
DeleteYou got some great comments on your summary!
ReplyDeleteProbably helps that I finally managed to post a response a little earlier than the day it was due ;)
DeleteIt seems like in a lot of the experiences that I read about on the blogs, even when we asked librarians to "recommend a book," some seemed to confuse that question with "let me bring you to the stacks and show you where the new releases are" or "let me introduce you to novelist and show you how to use it." I'm glad that your librarian at least used multiple resources to get a mix of results and he asked you questions and actually recommended you titles. I find that it's sometimes difficult to find a balance between holding a patron's hand too much, but also it's another to have a patron ask for book suggestions and throw reader's advisory tools in their face and expect them to figure it out on their own. I also want to provide answers with confidence, but also not in a way that makes the patron feel excluded because I'm not letting them make their own decisions or form their own opinions. It's a lot to juggle, but all we can do is keep these things in mind and do our best.
ReplyDeleteMallory, great point that each patron probably expects something different from the interaction. Maybe we could ask questions like, "do you want me to show you were we keep our newest releases?" or "do you know about Goodreads? I love it and I can show you how to make an account!" to see what patron responses are?
Delete